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Lofty curand, o sa achizitionez si eu un grup de 20 cred de la matale dar intai sa facem acvariul 
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am aflat pretul profilului 40x40x2mm ~ 70 RON bara de 6m, daca reduc intariturile la 1 buc pe fiecare parte cred ca 12 m imi ajung ... ramane ca urmatoarele zile sa ma interesez de blat si pal posibil si vizita la lofty (te anunt in prealabil) ...
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multam de sfaturi baieti
Minnardy as prefera si eu masa din pal deoarece ar fi mult mai usor de facut dar totusi datorita greutatii ma voi axa pe schelet metalic ... la intarituri o sa mai renunt, vor fi cate 1 sau 2 pe fiecare latura (dedesubt, deasupra, spate si fata) ... despre filtru' si uv pot zice: intai sa ajung acolo  ... masa o sa o fac cu dimensiunile acvariului (150x60), calculele vor pleca de la dimensiunea exacta a materialului cu care o voi "imbraca", probabil in partea de sus se va mentine ideea cu "blatul de bucatarie" ...
lofty cat de curand iti voi face si vizita.
ps. minnardy m-ai pus pe ganduri cu decorul aquael
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Dupa ultimele sfaturi probabil dimensiunile finale ale acvariului vor fi: 150(L)x60(l)x50(h)cm rezultand un volum de 450l.
Referitor la decor de principiu as urma modelul Lofty (nisip alb + pietre de la mare + decor Juwel rock) cu adaugarea unei scorburi-buturugi + Anubias.
Referitor la masa uitati cum m-am gandit sa fie:
Scheletul metalic (profil 40x40mm) se va baza tot pe modelul Lofty:
- un paralelipiped dreptunghic 150(L)x60(l)x60(h)cm format din:
* 4bare x 150cm (pe lungime)
* 4bare x 52cm (pe latime)
* 4bare x 52cm (pe inaltime)
- intariturile:
* 3bare x 52cm (in fata)
* 3bare x 52cm (in spate)
* 3bare x 52cm (dedesubt)
* 3bare x 52cm (deasupra)
In total ar fi aproximativ 16m de profil.
La partea din fata pot surveni modificari in functie de cum voi amplasa usile (posibil sa ramana doar 1 bara metalica pe centru)
Lofty poate sa ma ajute aici si sa-mi spuna daca sunt suficiente intariturile sau daca sunt prea multe, eu personal as mai renunta la cateva din intariturile de dedesubt si de deasupra.
Odata facut scheletul metalic urmeaza sa-l imbrac in pal sau ceva asemanator. Partea de sus as dori sa fie acoperita cu un "blat de bucatarie" dar in functie de cheltuieli ar putea deveni un simplu pal.
Daca planul este corect si toate ies bine lungimea si latimea mesei fata de dimensiunile acvariului ar trebui sa fie mai mari cu 3-4cm.
Intrebari:
- Credeti ca este mai bine ca masa sa fie mai mare sau lungimea si latimea ei sa fie exact ca ale acvariului (150x60)?
- Ca filtre externe m-am gandit sa pun Tetratec 1200 (pentru inceput 1buc iar apoi in functie de buget si cel de-al doilea); e suficienta inaltimea mesei 60cm - 8-9cm (dimensiune profil + suduri)?
Cam atat momentan ca-s la job si dauneaza
Sugestii, opinii !!
PS. Lofty daca este posibil la un moment dat o vizita la fata locului pentru a vizualiza mai exact modelele urmate si pentru niste sfaturi face2face :-P
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Hmmmm minnardy ... masa celorlalte 3 are latime 45 (ar insemna ca asta nou sa fie pus mai in fata, hmmm chiar ar fi mai bine  ) ) ... in locul in care planuiesc sa il asez nu stiu cat tine placa, poate ma trezesc cu etajul 2, 1 si parter peste mine in apartament ... la dimensiunile de 150x60x55 ar creste volumul cu vreo 85l ajungand aproape de 500 ... grea decizie dar probabil voi mari la 60 ... ramane sa caut profile sa vad la ce dimensiuni gasesc si in functie de asta sa iau decizia ... hmmm daca stau bine si ma gandesc aici ar fi o problema ... va trebui sa sudez masa in casa datorita dimensiunilor cred ca ar fi foarte greu sa o aduc in dormitor  (
Lofty spune-mi te rog ce dimensiune are in "profunzime" decorul juwel rock ...
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Pana la urma am ramas la 2 variante:
- acvariul din Hornbach 120x40x50 + capac + masa ~ 1400 RON
- acvariu confectionat de specialisti 150x50x55 + capac home made + masa home made
Ramane sa vad cu spatiul cum stau si in 1-2 luni sa pun ceva de-oparte si sa ma apuc de treaba ...
Deci ce ziceti? Astept in continuare sfaturi si pareri.
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Nope .... in general apa e cristal :p
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Nu stiu daca e o locatie potrivita dar hai sa incercam aici.
Vreau ca pana la sfarsitul anului (depinde foarte mult de situatia financiara) sa imi fac un acvariu 240-550l de preferat cu chiclide.
In principiu as dori sa-mi fac o "masa" din profil metalic 40x40mm (daca nu gresesc ceva in genul a ce are lofty) in cazul unui acvariu ce depaseste 300l. As dori niste sfaturi legate de achizitionarea acvariului, sa-l confectionez personal, sa apelez la o firma care se ocupa cu asa ceva, sa-l cumpar gata facut. Momentan sunt la capitolul de sondare al pietei si am nevoie de ajutor.
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La mine e cam jale, fundul e dominat de cory, pui de ancistrus care nu mai sunt tocmai pui, kuhli si sa nu mai vorbim de melcii de substrat ...
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Legate cu guta de pietre, lemne sau prinse direct sub pietre ori alte accesorii ... mai le gasesti pe la suprafata din cand incand, depinde mult daca are cine sa-ti rascoleasca substratul ...
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Melcul poate fi o "neritina" (poza e destul de neclara): http://shell.kwansei.ac.jp/%7Eshell/pic_book/img27/r002606.jpg seamana cu vreunul ?
Despre peste: pleco sau ancistrus
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Felicitari clauss ... sa-ti traiasca "copilasii" .... mie mi-e cam frica sa verific nuca de cocos, oricum geamurile sunt pline de micuti 
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clauss gandeste-te ca aia or sa si creasca ... sa te vedem atunci  )
si la mine a iesit si ultima tura din nuca, oamanii papa tot ... cati sunt !!?? hmmm chiar nu stiu si nu vreau sa-mi pierd timpul sa-i numar, sa vedem cati or fi cand or mai creste 
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Adrian eu iau hrana congelata de acolo de cateva luni bune, o mananca pestiucii (si guppy si neonii) ... Ca administrare rup cubuletele si cateodata chiar le tai pentru a micsora cantitatea, le las putin in apa apoi cu un betisor le lovesc pana se dezintegreaza (asta in cazul libelulelor) artemia si daphniile le las sa se imprastie singure ...
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Stie cineva pe unde pot gasi niste Otocinclus (in Bucuresti) ??
SAE sau ne-SAE am luat vreo 4 din Hornbach Militari acum vreo luna ... Cate 2 in 2 acvarii, acum nu stiu daca or fi SAE "originali" dar toata ziua ciugulesc de pe frunzele plantelor, mancare in acvarii se da odata pe zi, deobicei seara dupa job (ora 18-19) ...
Algae Eating Freshwater Fish
Algae can become a problem in both marine and freshwater aquariums. In this article, we will focus on a few algae eating fishes that can be kept in freshwater aquariums to help keep algae under control. The causes of algae in an aquarium can be widespread, e.g. too much light, too many plant nutrients, or certain deficiencies in water quality. Many enthusiasts have turned to freshwater algae eating fish to be a natural “cleaning crew” in helping keep algae from overtaking an otherwise beautiful tank.
There are several species of fish to choose from when shopping for a “cleaning crew”. Each species is known for eating a certain type or types of algae, but few are known for eating more than one type. Careful research pertaining to the type of algae one has plays an important role in determining whether an herbivorous fish can help in ridding of nuisance algae.
Black Molly
Black mollies are excellent for the community tank, as they get along with most fish. They are excellent scavengers of fuzz algae, often considered a strain of beard algae, and will swim around the tank cleaning plants and decorations. If bred, the baby mollies are known to survive on a diet of nearly one hundred percent fuzz algae. The black molly, or balloon molly, is also known to be an excellent surface skimmer. Because they are omnivores, the black molly also benefits from a diet that includes a good flake food. The molly is an excellent “janitor” for brackish water, as they prefer a little salt.
Otocinclus Cats (Otocinclus affinis)
Known as otos, the Otocinclus Cats are gaining popularity in the hobby. They are excellent clean up crew, although they mostly eat algae that are in the beginning stages. They will quickly devour any algae and diatoms, including that which is hard to find between foliage. Otos prefer schools of at least 6 fish, and can be skittish and hide if kept isolated. They are an excellent community fish, and only chase other life if hungry. They have a tendency to die quickly if the algae run out, but a dietary supplement of blanched cucumber can prevent starvation.
Siamese Algae Eaters (Crossocheilus siamensis)
Otherwise known as SAE’s, many consider these to be the best algae eaters of them all. They are commonly mistaken for Chinese algae eaters, and many pet stores label species of fish as SAE when in fact they are not. The SAE is diligent when it comes to eating red algae, which most algae eating fish will not touch. They are a peaceful fish, although when older may become aggressive towards their own kind. They are also known to eat hair and beard algae.
Plecos (Hypostomus punctatusare)
Plecos are commonly advertised by pet stores as the definitive algae eater, although they are not near as valuable as made out to be. They are the most commonly owned of the algae eating fish, although few know they can grow up to two feet in length. They do an excellent job of keeping the glass clean, as well as love any driftwood that can be provided. The pleco can be an aggressive fish, and has been known to eat small fish when hungry. They love algae tablets, and their diet can be supplemented with blanched romaine or spinach. If not properly fed, they will destroy the planted tank.
Butterfly Goodeid (Ameca Splendens)
The butterfly goodeid is known to devour algae such as red, green, and beard algae. A beautiful golden fish, this species is nearing extinction in the wild due to habitat destruction. Although they generally only grow to four to five inches, they are extremely aggressive and should not be housed in a peaceful community tank. They are known to nip at the fins of black skirt tetras, and bully other fish at feeding times.
The Florida Flag Fish (Jordanella floridae)
The FFF enjoys feasting on hair algae, and is sometimes known to eat beard algae. Although the temperament varies to each fish, they are often classified as aggressive, and will eat amano shrimp and even small neon tetras. They are considered dangerous to the peaceful community tanks.
Rosie Barbs (Puntius conchonius)
Considered an excellent substitute for the Florida flag fish, the rosie barb will make full meals out of hair algae and are described as “eating it up like spaghetti”. Rosie barbs are typically peaceful fish and grow up to six inches. They enjoy planted tanks; however, they will eat fine leafed plants so caution should be taken. If not enough algae are present, blanched peas or zucchini are an excellent substitute. They are not recommended for tanks less than 30 gallons.
Algae “clean up crews” are an excellent way to combat algae, but they cannot rid a hobbyist of algae. Proper water changes, proper lighting, and proper doses of plant nutrients are the only real ways to keep algae under control.
Edited by VAL: Done!
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Si la mine stau puii cu cei mari ... si cel mare e chiar fioarte mare 
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Bine ai venit printre noi si bafta cu discusii 
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Multam omu' de planta, in 10-15 min ma apuc de redecorari, daca iese ceva o sa o vezi la galeria mea 
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Bine ai venit ... abia astept sa vad pozele :p
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Salutare si bine ai venit, ma alatur si eu colegilor: o poza face cat 1000 de cuvinte :-)
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