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Cum pot sa normalizez KH-ul ? In acvariu am undeva intre 0 si 3 (nu stiu exact pt. ca test-ul este pe intervale)
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Da se gasesc la magazin solutii care ajuta la crestera KH dar sa ai grija si la Ph ca exista o corelatie intre ele
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Oki, meric mult.
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poti sa mai incerci 3 metode:
- adaugarea unei lingurite de bicarbonat de sodiu la 50 de litrii de apa va creste kh-ul cu 4 grade fara sa afecteze prea mult ph-ul
- mareste tulburenta apei la suprafata (piatra de aer, filtru cu evacuarea apei in sus..etc)
- opreste aditia de CO2 (in caz ca ai)
nu am experimentat nimic din ce am scris mai sus ..... sunt luate de pe net.
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cristi_ionescu_79 wrote:- adaugarea unei lingurite de bicarbonat de sodiu la 50 de litrii de apa va creste kh-ul cu 4 grade fara sa afecteze prea mult ph-ul
Bicarbonatu' creste foarte mult pH-u'.
Nu creste KH-u' de la bicarbonatu' de Na  . Chiar daca testele de KH indica asta.
KH-u' e dat de carbonatii de Ca si Mg. Din ce motive testele de KH masoara si bicarbonatu' de Na habar n-am.
cristi_ionescu_79 wrote:- mareste tulburenta apei la suprafata (piatra de aer, filtru cu evacuarea apei in sus..etc)
Asta cu siguranta nu are efect asupra KH-ului. Poate doar asupra pH-ului daca in apa este CO2 care va fi eliminat in urma turbulentei.
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Ok, deci in afara de produsele specializate, a testat cineva vre-o metoda "in casa" ?
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o sa cred ce scrie pe net .. cand o zbura porcu' ....
o sa raman la fel de circumspect ca si pana acum ....
multumesc frumos pt corectura .... eu unul am bagat la cap ce trebuia sa bag ....
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Leo, detaliaza un pic te rog .... ce doza se pune?
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Da, te rog detaliaza. Ai idee daca influenteaza si PH-ul ?
Si cam care ar trebui sa fie valoarea optima pentru un acvariu cu scalari (maturi) ?
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Nu inteleg cum ai KH-ul in Bucuresti intre 0 si 3. Folosesti apa RO?
Oricum, pentru broastele testoase existau mai de demult niste broscute mici de calciu (aproximativ 2,5 - 3 RON) care se dizolvau lent in apa si ofereau calciul necesar carapacei broastelor testoase. Ai putea folosi o astfel de broscuta de calciu.
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Folosesc apa de la robinet care, conform testului (TetraTest 5in1), are KH=3.
Schimb apa 1 data pe saptamana, cate 1/4. In acvariu am KH cat am spus.
O fi tester-ul "stricat" ?
Apropos, care este KH-ul optim pt. scalari ?
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Re. broscuta de calciu, buna idee dar...la 200L o fi prea mult una?
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S-ar putea sa fie testerul stricat vechi. Eu stau in Giulesti, si saptamina trecuta apa de la robinet avea duritate generala 9 dgh si duritate temporara (KH) 5 dkh. Valoarea duritatii generale coincide cu cea raportata de ApaNova pe site-ul oficial http://www.apabucur.ro/content.asp?section=1&menusID=51&parentID=0. Eu zic sa refaci masuratoarea cu un alt tester, eventual de la un prieten, inainte sa introduci broscuta de calciu.
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Si eu pun apa tot de la robinet, teste JBL 5 in 1, KH este tot 3 si la mine.
Exista in comert ceva produse care cresc KH-ul? Daca da, cum se numesc?
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LYM wrote:Exista in comert ceva produse care cresc KH-ul? Daca da, cum se numesc?
Da. Se numesc KH plus sau KH+.
E bun KH-u' de 3, nu-l ridica ....... doar daca ai cichlidae africane.
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Mersi pt reply.
Nu am ciclide africane.
Exista si o cale naturala de a mari KH-ul? Unde trebuie umblat?
Momentan o sa las apa in pace daca zici ca este ok un kh de 3 ...
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LYM wrote:Exista si o cale naturala de a mari KH-ul? Unde trebuie umblat?
Poti baga cochilii de scoici in filtru. Problema e ca nu stii cit de mult creste KH, depinde de cantitatea de scoici, de pH-u' apei din acvariu .......
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Dar nu zice nimeni nimic de bicarbonat  ? Eu cam asa fac..
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Bicarbonatu' de Na nu cred ca ridica intr-adevar KH. In dictionar KH este definit drept carbonatii de Ca si Mg, nici vorba de carbonat de Na.
Pe de alta parte, testele de KH de uz acvaristic indica o crestere a KH la folosirea bicarbonatului de Na.
Nu stiu in ca masura ionu' de Na e daunator vietii din acvariu.
Tipii de la Tropica explica in articolul despre cresterea discusilor in bazine plantate cum folosesc bicarbonat de Na, in ce concentratie si in combinatie cu ce :jajaja: . Si ei au la robinet apa foarte moale, duritate zero mi se pare ca zic ei.
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Dar nu cumva e vorba de carbonati, indiferent ce metal e in stanga acolo ?
NaHCO3 (bicarbonatul) sau MgCO3 etc.. care se combina cu CO2 din apa si in felul asta se atenuneaza ceva  dar nu stiu ce (aoleu, chimia - am uitat tot).
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