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Buna dragi colegi acvaristi  am avut pana anu trecut un acvariu de apa dulce cu dimensiuniile de 100x40x45, dar m-am mutat in alta parte si a trebuit sa trag acvariul pe dreapta dupa ce am avut probleme cu algele si alte chestii
Acum as dori sa imi fac un acvariu marin si daca imi pute-ti spune cum pot adapta acvariul si filtrele pentru a putea sa finalizez operatiunea
Pun poza cu acvariul
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Salutare!
- varianta ideala este sa gauresti bazinul si sa-i faci sistem de scurgere (overflow).
- filtrarea se face intr-un alt bazin (sump), aflat dedesubt.
- apa urca inapoi, in acvariu, cu ajutorul unei pompe.
Daca esti dispus sa pornesti la treaba, putem detalia...
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salutare, deci sa inteleg ca daca pornesc pe acest drum nu ma mai pot intoarce?
loc as avea in suportul de acvariu
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Ba da, te poti intoarce oricand... sunt bazine de apa dulce care folosesc acelasi tip de filtrare (sump).
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bun atunci, daca putem in primul rand sa incepem cu ce am nevoie pentru a putea sa incep operatiunea si eventual ce mai trebuie achizitionat?
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Putem sa incepem, sigur ca da!  )
Stii cate ceva despre acvaristica marina?... sau o luam "de la zero"?
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din pacate nu stiu mai nimic despre saramura dar nici despre cel dulce nu am stiut cand m.am apucat su m.am descurcat destul de bine  experienta in marin 0
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Cred ca in primul rand va trebui sa gauresti acvariul si sa faci sump-ul.
Apoi vei avea nevoie de:
- pompa de recirculare a apei pentru sump
- medii filtrante pentru sump - matrix in primul rand
- incalzitorul va fi acelasi ca la apa dulce
- 2 pompe de valuri
- nisip viu sau uscat
- piatra uscata sau vie
- iluminare - sunt alte lumini decat la apa dulce - leduri sau neoane
- lampa
- un sistem de racire al apei pe timpul verii
- un sistem de autocompletare al apei evaporate - ATO
- osmozor
- salimetru sau refractometru - ca sa masori salinitatea
- sare speciala - nu se foloseste cea de bucatarie !!!!
Dupa ce il ciclezi (atentie ca ciclarea dureaza mai mult ca la apa dulce) bagi vietuitoare.
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au mama  trebuie o investitie de cel putin 1000ron  bani pe care nu imi permit sa ii cheltui acum
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Trebuie o investitie de cel putin 1000 euro, nu 1000 ron. Citeste pina una alta sectiunea de marine de pe forum,
ai ce invata. Si cand esti pregatit si din punct de vedere financiar te poti apuca de treaba.
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Ideea e ca o investitie destul de mare la inceput, dar apoi o sa scada si crede-ma ca se merita
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pff  am pus-o  am citit diferite topicuri de apa marina si intradevar se merita dar intretinerea e mai usoara decat la cel de apa dulce?
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Intretinerea nu are cum sa fie mai usoara ca la apa dulce. La apa dulce schimbi 30% pe saptamana si apa de la robinet, la saramuri trebuie sa schimbi 10% din apa pe saptamana, dar schimbi cu apa de osmoza + sare speciala. Ca sa-ti faci o idee 1 kg de sare costa aproape 20 ron si iti ajunge pentru vreo 30L.
Si e posibil sa trebuiasca sa faci aditii de diverse substante. Iti va trebui si mancare pentru corali.
De meritat se merita, nu am vazut pana acum vreun acvarist sa regrete ca s-a apucat de acvarii marine.
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Vorbim vorbe...
1) Un bazin marin e mai scump (vorbim de amenajat) decat un bazin de apa dulce.
- construit sump + sistem Bean Animal,
- acareturi: skimmer, pompa recirculare, pompe valuri, instalatie lumina, reactoare,
- instalatie de osmoza,
- cumparat piatra + nisip.
2) Un bazin marin are costuri lunare mai mari decat cel de apa dulce.
- la nivel bazic, apa de osmoza + sarea
- la alt nivel, intervin diversii aditivi... testele
3) Orataniile de apa sarata sunt MULT mai scumpe decat orataniile de apa dulce.
- pestii nu se reproduc, asa ca totul e de import,
- idem nevertebratele (crabi, creveti, scoici etc),
- coralii sunt scumpi (prin comparatie cu plantele de apa dulce).
Pe scurt, acvaristica marina e mai scumpa... sigur ca se poate face un bazin mic, ale carui costuri sa fie minimale.
Da' chiar si asa, prin comparatie cu apa dulce, tot costa mai scump!
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multumesc tare mult de informatii
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Te poti orienta catre un nano reef (30-40L) pentru inceput, costuri mai reduse si il poti intretine in paralel cu cel de apa dulce.
Dupa ce-ti dai mana cu el, iti poti face o idee daca esti pregatit sau nu sa treci la unul mai mare.
Chiar si la un nano costurile sunt de aprox 500 EUR.
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cred ca mai bine pun aia 500 de euro deoparte si mai trag de timp si il fac pe asta mare decat sa fac unu nano, in afara de gaura in bazin mai trebuie modificat ceva? tot citesc de camere individuale si nu imi dau seama cum as putea sa fac la acvariul meu, am un acvariu mai mic pe care as putea sa il modific daca se poate adapta pentru asa ceva
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Indiferent daca e nano sau mai mare costurile initiale sunt aproximativ la fel deoarece te axezi pe aparatura,teste,sare,osmoza,etc....
Cel pe care il ai poti sa il transformi intr-un all in one adica sa ii pui un perete sa ii reduci lungimea la 650-700mm,si in camera rezultata sa pui tot ce ii trebuie.
L.E. oricum ar fi in prima faza cred ca poti economisi bani citind.Mult.
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 as si fac  acum ma documentez si va rog sa ma scuza-ti daca pun tot felu de intrebari
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Intrebarea care poti sa ti-o pui singur si cea mai importanta este ce o sa introduci in el si apoi daca il poti intretine ,pt ca te va costa destul de mult !
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