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Sall, nu stiu pe unde am auzit, sau am citit ca daca trec apa direct de la robinet printr-un filtru cu carbune activ o pot introduce in acvariu fara sa o mai las la declorinat. sa fie oare adevarat  ??
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Daca filtrul este eficient, da. Daca trece apa prea repede prin el pentru ca-i prea putin carbune, sau de calitate proasta, n-o sa oxideze tot clorul.
Un exemplu bun pentru cantitatea necesara o da filtrul cu carbune activ plasat inaintea unui filtru RO (Revers Osmosis), la care se pun cam 500ml prin care trec zilnic ca. 500 de litrii de apa.
In apa din Romania se pune mai mult clor si mai des decat in tarile in care sunt produse filtrele RO.
Am avut cazuri repetate in care a trecut clor prin carbune si a distrus membrana, asa ca ar fi bine sa folosesti un litru de carbune activ pentru uz acvaristic la 500 de litri de apa.
Clorul nu se depune in carbune ci este oxidat de acesta, asa ca nu se consuma.
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1l de carbune la un flux de 500l in 24 de ore.
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Sunt curios,care este diferenta dintre carbunele din sacii de la benzinarii si carbunele pentru uz acvaristic?
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lasind gluma la o parte, cel din acvaristica este tratat in cuptoare la o anumita temperatura care ii ofera niste proprietati speciale, folosit in filtre el absoarbe si neutralizeaza o multime de substante chimice, metale grele, clor etc...
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Mda. nu-i chiar bine sa folosesti orice carbune. Cel pentru acvaristica nu contine reziduuri daunatoare pentru pesti, ramase-n el din fabricatie.
In urma cu cativa ani mai exista carbune pentru acvarii care acidula apa daca nu era spalat bine inainte de folosire. E mai bine sa urmaresti ce face dupa ce incepi sa-l folosesti.
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am facut o schita a filtrului cu carbune activ pentru apa de la robinet, dar nu reusesc sa upload-ez un fisier "Immagine.bmp"  , cum s-e face??
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Aceeasi problema am avut-o si eu cu o schita facuta in Paint. Incearca sa o micsorezi. A mea avea initial 1 mega si ceva si nu am putut-o uploda. Am micsorat-o pana la vreo 600 si ceva de kilo si a mers.
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A mers!! :byeah: , multumesc mult m_3!!
si acum intrebarea: daca printrun filtru care arata cam asa: http://www.acvariu.ro/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=0, si in care intra cam 500 grame de carbune activ(inainte era un filtru folosit in procesul de vinificatie, da i-i schimb eu destinatia  !) a-si putea sa trec 40 litri de apa direct de la robinet cam intr-o ora!!??? (cam atita apa schimb eu o data pe saptamina)
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linkul tau
link[/color">][color="red"]linkul tau
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link=http://www.acvariu.ro/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1040&pos=11
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nush ce ii fac  ,citeodata i-mi iasa  citeodata nu  .....internetul si misterele lui
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daca vrei sa pui numai link-ul, lasa un spatiu inaintea http-ului. Nu ti-a a iesit fiindca aveai doua puncte inaintea lui :http:....
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super, si merge ideea? pt ca eu momentan tot cu galeti si cu pompa de apa ma descurc, dar fac apa pe jos.
si culmea e ca baia e chiar vis-a-vis de acvarii, deci mi-ar fi mult mai usor sa trag un furtun din baie, printr-un filtru si direct in acvariu. apa din acvarii o scot cu pompa direct in chiuveta ca am furtun lung
scz-ma ca m-am bagat in topicul tau
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Eu pun apa direct de la robinet si nu este nici o problema.Cantitatea de clor este prea mica,ca sa dauneze in bazin,pus ca acest tip de filtrare inlatura si elementele chimice necesare plantelor si nevertebratelor din acvariu pentru o crestere sanatoasa. Inlaturarea acestor elemente reprezinta o problema in acvariile plantate
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chiar daca nu s-e vede sunt sigur ca pestii tai sufera din cauza clorului,sunt sensibili la sa ceva,iar nutrientii pentru plante vin din substrat si fertilizanti pe care ii adaugam noi!
pt. mirciulik: nu-i nici o problema ca te-ai "bagat"  in topicul meu, astept si eu sa vad daca s-e poate,desi cred ca s-e poate dar depinde se cantitatea de carbune si debitul de apa/timp trecut prin el, asteptam pe domnul Carja Ioan s-au alti maestri in acvaristica sa n-e dea m-ai multe detalii mai pe intelesul nostru
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ASTA-I DESENUL
E scris asa:
[url=http://www.acvariu.ro/coppermine/albums/userpics/13088/normal_Immagine.bmp]ASTA-I DESENUL[%url], dar cu bara oblica in ultimul [url] in loc de [%url]
Eu ziceam de 1l de carbune la un debit de 500l/24 ore. Ce vrei sa faci tu este 0,5l carbune la 40lx24ore=960l/24 ore. Incearca, dar nu da vina pe mine daca-ti topeste membrana.
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Pardon, daca trece clor prin carbune fara sa fie oxidat. Numai membrane am in gand
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nicolaepaun2008 wrote:Eu pun apa direct de la robinet si nu este nici o problema.Cantitatea de clor este prea mica,ca sa dauneze in bazin,pus ca acest tip de filtrare inlatura si elementele chimice necesare plantelor si nevertebratelor din acvariu pentru o crestere sanatoasa. Inlaturarea acestor elemente reprezinta o problema in acvariile plantate
Nu si la acest debit! Ca sa scoti ceva din apa prin adsorbtie cu carbune activ trebuie sa treaca apa prin el la picatura, cam genul 1l/2ore, nu 20l/ora.
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