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am un acvariu de 200l facut cu sticla de 8 si vad ca face putina burta in zona de mijloc si mi-e frica sa nu cedeze,intrebarea mea este, daca adaug un decor mai mare gen pietre,radacini etc as avea mai putina presiune scazand volumul apei?multumesc anticipat
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masoara burta pe care o face. Ce dimensiuni ai la acvariu? Presupun ca nu ai intarituri sus?
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scorpionul wrote:masoara burta pe care o face. Ce dimensiuni ai la acvariu? Presupun ca nu ai intarituri sus?
100x40x50 fara intarituri
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gothic33 wrote:100x40x50 fara intarituri
Nu te vad bine!
- ori consideri (mental) ca acvariul are doar 40 cm inaltime, asa ca-l umpli doar pana la nivelul corespuzator (37-38 cm).
- ori te apuci si lipesti ranforsari superioare... niste bucati de sticla, lipite pe marginea de sus. Uite AICI
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koala wrote:
gothic33 wrote:100x40x50 fara intarituri
Nu te vad bine!
- ori consideri (mental) ca acvariul are doar 40 cm inaltime, asa ca-l umpli doar pana la nivelul corespuzator (37-38 cm).
- ori te apuci si lipesti ranforsari superioare... niste bucati de sticla, lipite pe marginea de sus. Uite AICI
intrebarea mea era alta nu sa fac intarituri
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Ai primit un sfat pertinent de la un acvarist cu multa experienta, dar tu nu ca batman-pui pietroaie sa scada presiunea ca vezi doamne dizloca nu stiu cata apa. Pai spor pune atata piatra si lemne pana scade burta
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gothic33 wrote:intrebarea mea era alta nu sa fac intarituri
Intrebarea ta denota ca nu stii cu ce se mananca treaba asta, asa ca ti-am dat un simplu sfat practic... care sa te ajute sa rezolvi problema.
Daca vrei explicatii, atunci tre' sa stii ca "burta" aia se datoreaza presiunii pe care coloana de apa o exercita asupra geamului.
Dincolo de calcule matematice, parametrul care influenteaza presiunea este "inaltimea coloanei de apa". Atat si nimic altceva!
Nu conteaza CE volum de apa ai in acvariu, ci doar CAT de inalta e coloana de apa!
Plm, cam asta a fost lectia de fizica aplicata.
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koala wrote:
gothic33 wrote:intrebarea mea era alta nu sa fac intarituri
Intrebarea ta denota ca nu stii cu ce se mananca treaba asta, asa ca ti-am dat un simplu sfat practic... care sa te ajute sa rezolvi problema.
Daca vrei explicatii, atunci tre' sa stii ca "burta" aia se datoreaza presiunii pe care coloana de apa o exercita asupra geamului.
Dincolo de calcule matematice, parametrul care influenteaza presiunea este "inaltimea coloanei de apa". Atat si nimic altceva!
Nu conteaza CE volum de apa ai in acvariu, ci doar CAT de inalta e coloana de apa!
Plm, cam asta a fost lectia de fizica aplicata.
tot la fizica m-am referit si eu cand am spus ca scaderea volumului de apa scade presiunea,scuze daca te simti deranjat dar am simtit ca-mi raspunzi ce nu ma priveste
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doua bare longitudinale ar rezolva problema?
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DA! Ar rigidiza geamul si acesta nu ar mai face burta aceea.
Dar presiunea ramane tot acolo, asa ca geamul va fi tensionat... orice lovitura ii poate fi fatala.
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gothic33 wrote:intrebarea mea este, daca adaug un decor mai mare gen pietre,radacini etc as avea mai putina presiune scazand volumul apei?multumesc anticipat
Asta-i o gluma buna, serios  . Mai ales pentru fizicieni.
Norocul face ca postul asta sa fie scris la 'Coltul incepatorului', altfel incepea Arhimede sa intre pe forum
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Pune intaritoare longitudinale atat la baza cat si la buza de sus, apoi vei avea putina liniste.
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gothic33 wrote:intrebarea mea este, daca adaug un decor mai mare gen pietre,radacini etc as avea mai putina presiune scazand volumul apei?multumesc anticipat
Asta-i o gluma buna, serios  . Mai ales pentru fizicieni. Norocul face ca postul asta sa fie scris la 'Coltul incepatorului', altfel incepea Arhimede sa intre pe forum
Cred totusi ca ar avea sens, daca obiectele adaugate in acvariu ar avea densitatea mai mica decat a apei. Formula presiunii cred ca e: densitate x g x h. Deci daca reduci densitatea, scade presiunea.
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Daca au densitate mai mica, plutesc la suprafata apei.
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Antecume wrote:Cred totusi ca ar avea sens, daca obiectele adaugate in acvariu ar avea densitatea mai mica decat a apei.
Formula presiunii cred ca e: densitate x g x h. Deci daca reduci densitatea, scade presiunea.
Asta e valabil numa' daca in loc de apa pui un alt lichid, cu densitate mai mica... altfel, nu.
Ca sa exemplificam si ca sa inteleaga toata lumea, presiunea apei (asupra geamurilor) intr-un acvariu cu inaltimea de 50 cm este ACEEASI... INDIFERENT ca acvariul are 1 metru lungime, sau 3 metri lungime... indiferent ca acvariul are 40 cm latime, sau 4 metri latime... NU CONTEAZA DECAT INALTIMEA COLOANEI DE APA!
Desigur, un geam "scurt" este mai rezistent (la indoire) decat un geam "lung"... asa ca un bazin 50x50x50 cm va fi "mai rezistent" la flambare decat un bazin de 200x50x50 cm.
In aceeasi nota a explicatiilor, un bazin 200x50x50 cm va face EXACT aceeasi "burta" ca si un bazin 200x10x50 cm.
Revenind la situatia prezentata, bazinul acela va face aceeasi "burta", indiferent ca inauntru sunt 3 bolovani sau 15 bolovani.
Singurul avantaj (cu bolovanii aia multi pusi inauntru) este acela ca, daca ti se sparge acvariul, o sa ai mai putina apa de adunat de pe dusumea... atat.
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Doar atat va spun: pe luna, acest acvariu nu ar face burta, ar fi safe si fara intaritoare.
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um02122 wrote:Doar atat va spun: pe luna, acest acvariu nu ar face burta, ar fi safe si fara intaritoare.
 Da si asta.
Sau sa bage cateva baloane lipite de fundul bazinului.
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