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intrucit intentionez sa dau un restart la un nano de 12l si as vrea sa trec de la E C la co2 presurizat am o nelamurire.
cit timp m-ar tine o butelie de 500g si cite bule pe secunda ar trebui sa bag.
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Calculeaza volumul de gaz din butelie, estimeaza un volum eliberat per bula, de aici afli in cate secunde se va elibera gazul.
Sa ma contrazica cine isi aminteste mai multa fizica / chimie ca mine
i) masa molara: 500g/44g/mol ~ 11.3 moli
ii) daca un mol are 22.4 litri la temperatura standard 273 k atunci la 20 de grade C are 24 de litri
iii) Atunci 24 l/mol * 11.3moli = 271.2 litri de gaz CO2
Acum mai trebui sa determini volumul eliberat in fiecare bula de gaz.
(Edit) Mai stie cineva cum se determina volumul bulelor? Pot sa jur ca am facut la fizica in liceu.
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Admitand in teorie ca acea bula de gaz eliberata nu este afectata de presiune si are o forma aproape sferica ii poti determina volumul. Insa repet este o estimare pur teoretica si empirica din care lipsesc anumite variabile
P.S. Volumul unei sfere este v=4/3(p*r^3)
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Nu, trebuie sa tii cont de presiune, masele lichidului si ale gazului si cred ca si de diametrul furtunului. Hai niciun profesor de fizica nu e si pasionat de acvaristica?!
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http://www.aquaristikshop.com/e_Produktinformationen/Dennerle-CO2-Bubble-Counter-Exact.htm
Poate link-ul asta ajuta cu ceva. Acum daca tot ne batem capul .... in secunda in care am eliberat o bula de gaz in acvariu prima forta care actioneaza asupra ei este presiunea hidrostatica, da' totusi eu zic ca "ne teoretizam" prea mult
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Doar prin calcule precise poti detemina o perioada, asa empiric sau prin intuitie nu vei determina nimic, matematica este foarte perversa.
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apreciez incercarea de a-mi oferi un raspuns foarte exact, dar eu as prefera unul mai aproximativ si din expierenta pt a nu ma duce la incarcat cu
acea butelie in fiecare saptamina.
Cu respect
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EU: Acvariu de 160L, butelie de 2L, 3 bule/s, o incarc la 4-5 luni.
TU: Acvariu 12L, butelie 0,5L, o bula la 3-4 secunde, poate chiar mai putin, o incarci la.... fa analogia.
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The CO2 bubbles generated by the Dennerle CO2 Bubble Counter Exact have an average weight of 0,125 mg and a volume of 0,063 ml. 10 bubbles per minute therefore correspond to a CO2 supply of 1,8 g or 0,9 litres per day.
m-am lamurit.
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