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Nu stiu ce are Vasile dar s-a influmat ca un balon, acum sta pe geamul de sus al acvariului lipit cu ventuza, asa am observat chestia asta.Sa fie un exces de mancare?
Sa nu uit, e un ancistrus snowflake
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Mai da-i hrana bazata pe proteina animala , ca e bine . O sa explodeze .
E semn clar de indigestie cauzata de hranirea excesiva cu baza pe proteina animala .
Ancistrusii sunt vegetarieni .
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Deci eu nu dau mancare de origine animala aproape deloc (daca la fulgi te referi) probabil mai cade pe fundul acvariului si doar atat.
Desi posibil sa ai dreptate ca ieri am dat din greseala ceva mai multa mancare.
Deci cum as putea remedia problema ?
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Cauta pe la farmacii sare amara (sau sulfat de magneziu , e aceeasi chestie).
Aici detalii despre ea/el : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate
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Sau da-le artemia congelata. Are efect usor laxativ.
Nu conosc nici un peste vegetarian. Ca unele specii au o dieta cu aport mare de vegetale, este cu totul altceva. Oricum, la ancistrusi, pe masura ce inainteaza in varsta, pofta de verdeata slabeste (de aici si interesul tot mai mic fata de alge).
Numai puilor le administrz fulgi cu continut ridicat de vegetale, restul au parte de dieta comuna (Tetra min, Tetra discus, artemia, larve chiromonide, mixtura cu inima de vita).
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Dragosdiscus wrote:
Nu conosc nici un peste vegetarian. .
Serios ??? Inseamna ca ottocincluzii sunt rapitori vorace .
sa mai dau exemple de pesti eminamente vegetarieni ?
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Aici ai o lista destul de completa cu dieta unui pleco, foarte buna si pentru ancistrus. http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31574
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Acolo e vorba despre legume si fructe cu care POTI hrani plecostomusii si alte loricaridae.
Nu confundati carnivorii cu rapitorii (a se vedea ce obiceiuri are vulturul plesuv african). Daca incerci sa cresti otto doar cu algele din acvariu, nu va avea zile multe.
Tractul digestiv al pestilor este pentru un tip de alimentatie mixta (a se baga la cap si de catre oamenii vegetarieni!). Vegetalele nu au un aport energetic prea grozav, lucru constatat si de oamenii care tin post. Pentru a sustine un organism cu o astfel de alimentatie este necesar un sistem digestiv specific, a se vedea prin cartile de biologie din scoala elementara cum e cu stomacul acela cu 4 compartimente al ierbivorelor.
Dieta variata este una din conditiile unor pesti sanatosi. Balanta catre componentele vegetale/animale (aici lucrurile de fapt sunt mult mai complexe dar incerc o simplificare) este delicata, si, asa cum nu am gasit pe google ci de-a lungul anilor in care am crescut si reprodus pesti, variaza in decursul vietii, inclusiv la mult indragitul otto, sau la mai bine cunoscutul SAE s.a. .
Daca are cineva obiceiul de a citi pe sarite, sa nu ramana cu impresia ca as recomanda hranirea loricaridelor (sau altor specii) exclusiv cu proteina animala, gen larve, tubi, artemia sau inima de vita simpla, desi aportul de minerale este nepretuit. Primele 2 luni, puii mei de ancistrusi primesc 70% fulgi provegetables. Ulterior, hrana mixta, de calitate. Un amic mi-a spus ca daca hranesc ancistrusii cu salata (faceam asta pe-atunci) se vor invata se atace si plantele. Desi nu am constatat pe pielea mea (adica plantele mele), pentru ca livrez sute de ancistrusi, nu mi-am asumat riscul sa ma injure vreun client, asa ca le-am scos salata din menu.
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scuze ca am lipsit 2 zile dar am avut netul picat  revin cu noutati, acum ancistrusul nu numai ca este umflat dar la-m fazut ca scoate un fel de balon cu o chestie rosie in el din .... stiti voi...e ceva grav?
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la-m fazut ca scoate un fel de balon cu o chestie rosie in el
Scoate??? Pe unde?  Initial mi-a venit sa rad, dupa aia nu mi s-a mai parut funny. Nu pe bune, cum adica scoate ceva ca un balon cu ceva rosu in el? N-am mai auzit asta. Nu ca as fi vreun specialist in boli... Chiar sunt curios.
Later Edit: Aha, am vazut ulterior ca ai zis pe unde scoate... Scuze.
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gata am corectat...am pus o poza-deci pe aici:  ...  ....mie m-i se pare foarte ciudat
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Buna ar fi o poza ...
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din pacate nu pot acum...s-a bagat in buturuga dar cand il vad voi face o poza si o voi pune
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daca va uitati atenti veti vedea niste umflaturi
am observat ca a scapat de "balonul" acela
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M-am uitat bine, dar n-am vazut umflaturile.
Deci nu este vorba de o balonare, ci de niste galme?
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nu stiu exact ce poate fi, dar da semne de revenire
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Cred ca mai mult este o balonare.
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Daca:
- Mananca
- Nu are solzii zbarliti si/sau ochii umflati
Are o indigestie ce poate fi cauzata de mancare alterata sau numai de prosta calitate.
Cum a eliminat ceva (acel balon ciudat) tractul digestiv pare sa fie liber, deci nu ar avea nevoie de un laxativ gen sare amara. Repet ca o portie de artemia ar fi tare buna. Nu-l hrani acum cu larve de chiromonide si nicicand cu tubi.
Daca prezinta unul dintre simtomele de mai sus e posibila o hidropizie. Vindecare incerta.
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